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Date: 2005-04-23 15:55:07

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What to you all think since Hip Hop has been accepted by the masses. I feel that the benefits of hip hop going mainstream is that it is easier to find the product from larger retailers. Especially helpfull when you live in the outer limits of the world. Having said this the rap being churned out follows a distinct chain, GANGSTA, GANGSTA, and even more GANGSTA. Old school rap didnt have to follow the masses to be accepted, its was original. Thev content of old rap was from the heart, from whats happening to them on the street. Im talkin fun times and bad times. Id like to hear some good times rapped out in the mainstream. This is just my view. Whats yours. The Bee __________________ FFBNSANE

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Date: 2005-04-30 17:47:14

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not my view...but i thought it was still pretty profound; from a recent PE interview:

Do you feel a bit angry at the white liberal press who dismissed Muse-Sick-N-Hour-Mess-Age as a bad album in a crucial moment in the struggle for Hip hop, even though it’s clear it was a very important album from this perspective?

Chuck D: We were just very consistent. Muse-Sick-N-Hour Mess-Age was a very consistent album as far as some points that needed to be said, but that album came out at the time when Bill Clinton was moving in and there was this whole media aspect of expecting us to say something that was vogue, and vogue at that time was to be hypocritical. We refused to do that.

Griff: No, we don’t feel that way. You see they are doing their job and that is what they felt they had to do at that moment in order to derail hip hop. However you have to understand one thing: black people did it to themselves as far as the decay of hip hop by not respecting other places around the world opening up for the culture. Black people turned on themselves, but of course the main blame is to be put on the white entrepreneur for “****ising” hip hop. They are the ones who made it look like that if you talk about jewelry, booty, party, you can get paid. As long as you don’t talk about anything political, you are fine. You give contracts and money only to these artists, put them on TV – it was systematic!

http://www.marxist.com/ArtAndLiterature/public_enemy_interview.html

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Date: 2005-05-01 17:12:32

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Were goin deep way way deep. I enjoyed soaking up the content of the clipping from the PE interview.

A lot of deep deep thinking followed... I agree with the points raised by Griff/Chuck.

In a way, what their sayin to me is if your buying a title from a mainstream hip hop artist your buying into and promoting the demise of real hip hop.

I remember the good old days when I couldnt walk into a large retailer and order over the counter any hip hop artists records. It was a hassle to travel to a specialist import record supplier but this only served to provide real value to the record, when I aquired it.

I felt proud that only real homies could/would know how to obtain the real stuff. Getting that record with that little green import sticker was worth all the effort....... Iam talkin from a UK perspective.

On the flip side, I couldnt help myself when a so called new rap act would feature on a popular television show. I would be the first to say" hey theyve been around for ages, where have you been"

Times have changed.

For the Good and for the Bad.

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